‘For a Loser He’s Winning an Awful Lot!’ Kara Swisher Bristles When Chris Wallace Asks If Biden Should Bow Out

Kara Swisher snapped “Why should he?” when CNN’s Chris Wallace asked if President Joe Biden should drop out of the presidential race, adding “For a loser, he’s winning an awful lot!”

Journalists Jonah Goldberg, Lulu Garcia-Navarro, Reihan Salam, and Kara Swisher joined Wallace for this week’s edition of CNN’s The Chris Wallace Show on Saturday morning to discuss the news of the week.

The show started off with a discussion of the contrast between the off-year elections in which the GOP got clobbered on the issue of abortion and the blockbuster battleground poll that came out last weekend, with Wallace asking panelists if Biden should still be thinking of bowing out.

After Salam said he definitely should, Wallace turned to Swisher — who did not agree:

CHRIS WALLACE: Kara?

KARA SWISHER: No, he shouldn’t. Why should he pull out? I mean, for a loser, he’s winning an awful lot! And it’s not just this election. It was in all over the country. Every election we’ve had, they keep winning. And if you were, you’re not asking these questions about Donald Trump, who wanders around like a fatuous pop Jay all the time. And you don’t say he’s in trial during most of the campaign season, No one says should he quit. No one says you quit. Well, okay. Yes, but I’m just saying it’s not the same discussion that’s happening for.

JONAH GOLDBERG: Sure, because Donald Trump isn’t the president and Joe Biden is. And I completely disagree with you on this idea that he’s going around winning. The governor in Kentucky barely mentioned his name at all. The candidates running in Virginia didn’t mention his name. They’re trying to distance themselves from him. He is unpopular. He is very unpopular.

LULU GARCIA-NAVARRO: Happens every single election season. The incumbent often doesn’t have long coattails and the down ballot tends not to try and, you know, hitch themselves to that wagon. So I don’t know why Joe Biden is getting such short shrift.

REIHAN SALAM: This is great for Republicans, by the way. I mean, have at it, you know, have him run again. But the truth is that this is unique. When you look at Barack Obama, his polling was much, much stronger during his first term. Even when things got dicey, it was in response to news events with President Biden. This has been weakness from the very first year of his presidency.

He’s beaten Trump already!

CHRIS WALLACE: Let me just break in here for a moment to actually put some numbers on the screen. And they’re not good for Biden. In the latest CNN poll, only 25% of Americans say Biden has the stamina and sharpness to be president. 72% say things are going badly. So I guess the question, Kara, is the Democrats have have the right message but the wrong messenger?

KARA SWISHER: I don’t think so. I think they’ll come home in the end because they’ll be faced with Trump, who will be, you know, pontificating and yelling and saying crazy things. He will be in trials. He could be convicted. There’s so much between now and then that I think this is the same thing that happened when Biden was in the primary. Remember, he wasn’t ever going to win. Everyone was in love with bad veto and this guy can’t win. He’s a loser. And then he won. And so I just I just like I have to say, I agree with him. Polls don’t vote. Voters vote.

JONAH GOLDBERG: And I think there’s a lot of truth to that. I think the key for Biden is that the anti-Trump coalition is much larger than the Pro-biden coalition. Sure. But we have a collective action problem in this country. We have two candidates who are so unpopular, much like in 2016, each has a chance to lose to the other and 70% of Americans, depending on the polls, you look at somewhere between 60 and 70% of Americans don’t want to vote for either of these people, that is. But both parties are so weak. And I think in part, Joe Biden made a terrible mistake with his running mate that it is impossible for him to step down and find somebody to replace him. And so the only way Biden will be able to win is by doing what you suggest, which I think is probably what will happen. I still think Trump will probably lose, but is to run all about catastrophizing, about a Donald Trump presidency and not much on touting how great Joe Biden is.

Watch above via CNN’s The Chris Wallace Show.